Seems like the press conference by our opponents went off without too much of a blip in the media, as far as I’m seeing on the web. Did you see anything on the news? Please comment.
I don’t know where they get off saying we don’t have the right to blacklist and boycott. I doubt I’ll be seeing many of them dining at Hamburger Mary’s anytime soon. Likewise, I don’t want to be in the midst of creepy, perma-smile wackos who pity me as a sinner as they gloat about their win. And then use the profits from my patronage to further injure me.
Apparently the other side is getting upset that the media doesn’t go to them for equal time when covering our protests?
“I come here with a wholly righteous, God-given anger at what’s happening in our state,” Jim Garlow, a Sand Diego pastor, said of his opponents’ activities. He also complained about unfair treatment by the media, and was enthusiastically cheered.
I think he sums up a big part of the problem: their “righteous” and “god given” edict to oppress gays. Another quote says:
“What they don’t have the right to do is harass and intimidate people,” said Frank Schubert, director of the Prop. 8 campaign. “They don’t have a right to blacklist and boycott our supporters.”
And from our side:
“Just because it was on the ballot doesn’t mean it was constitutional,” said Irvine’s Mitch Goldstone, a gay man who married his longtime partner in June.
More coverage:
OC Register and Protect Marriage Press Release
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November 22nd, 2008 at 9:22 pm
interesting that you call us the bigot for excercising our right to vote for what we feel is right. now who is the bigger bigot? let me give you a hint…the one who shouts the double standard. you dare to stand up and say that we should respect others opinions yet, you do not respect ours. we never marched against you! we never blacklisted you! yet, you teach exceptance but, what you really mean is you only except your own thoughts and ideas. shame on all of you!!!!!!!
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:29 pm
Tisha, this has nothing to do with expressing yourself and voting. It has everything to do WITH THE RESULT, and with you and the Yes on 8 campaign thinking it’s OK to strip rights from people you might not understand or agree with.
Everyone is free to have their own opinion and even judge others. But when one group takes away something from another, and mandates disapproval of another group, then all americans should be terribly afraid.
For example, did you see the “ban mormon marriage” t-shirts we’re selling? What would be your argument if such a law passed by the majority. Would you lie down and say that it was OK? I highly doubt it.
November 22nd, 2008 at 9:35 pm
I think that I’m missing the logic of these arguments. Let me try to review. (1) someone holds discriminatory beliefs and votes to take away someone elses rights. (2) said target objects. (3) said target objects more loudly when the perp is successful. (4) target is now a biggot as well.
Say WHAT?
November 29th, 2008 at 10:27 am
Maybe they need to understand that they have freedom of speech. Not freedom from the consequences of that freedom of speech. They san say anything they want, and I can spend my money anyway I want. It won’t go to someone who tries to take away other’s rights. I am hetero, their involvement does not change my ability to get married, but it does give hate an excuse to go forward. I don’t want to be surrounded by hate.
December 1st, 2008 at 9:46 am
STrip the rights? Gays never had the right to get married so how can it be stripped? Most people who do not support gay marriage do instead support civil unions which afford the couple the legal rights they are seeking. If I, based on my religious convictions, do not support actual marriage, then I am a bigot and filled with hate? The gay community is hamstringing itself with the insistence on marriage as opposed to civil unions.
December 1st, 2008 at 10:09 am
tisha, you’re not a bigot for excercising your right to vote. You’re a bigot for using your vote to cause your religious beliefs to have the force of law. You’re a bigot for voting that your religious beliefs regarding “what we FEEL is right” trumps other people’s LEGAL rights.
You claim that the “bigger bigot” is the one who “shouts the double-standard.” I don’t disagree. You enjoy the legal protection to use YOUR religious choice to ensure other people cannot enjoy the legal protections of THEIR choices. Double-standard? Oh my, yes.
“we never marched against you! we never blacklisted you!”
Hilarious.
December 3rd, 2008 at 4:47 pm
PJ, which election were you voting in? Gays DID have the right to marriage, which Prop 8 took away. Maybe it was only for several months, but somewhere upwards of 17,000 same sex couples were married in California…legally. They had the same marriage that you may enjoy.
So gays were stripped of rights. How is that not changing things? I think sometimes Pro Prop 8 people have convinced themselves that because, in their view, they have “righted a wrong” that it’s no harm, no foul.
I don’t think anyone should be surprised that once gays have been allowed to have the same rights as hetero couples that they’re not going to settle for “separate but equal” civil unions (let’s not even start that discussion as to whether or not they are truly equal).
December 10th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
I am completely disgusted by all who voted against gay marriage, and have 0 respect for them as human beings.
To completely disregard the rights of your fellow humans and to blatantly violate the Constitution which guarantees the pursuit of happiness and equal treatment under the law, to mandate and control the personal lives of others, is not only un-American, it is fascist in its insanity.
“No man has a natural right to commit aggression on the equal rights of another, and this is all from which the laws ought to restrain him.”
~Thomas Jefferson
“Of liberty I would say that, in the whole plenitude of its extent, it is unobstructed action according to our will. But rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law,’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the right of an individual.”
~Thomas Jefferson
“That the desires of the majority of the people are often for injustice and inhumanity against the minority, is demonstrated by every page of the history of the whole world”
~John Adams
December 13th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
I am always impressed at how quickly and often the opposition has the very first comment on anything not just at this site but on so many other gay sites talking about anything prop 8 related.
This pattern is consistent, persistent and pervasive.
It would almost seem that it is organized and orchestrated.
The opposition would call these statements paranoid. Still, I am impressed with such an ubiquitous pattern.