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Elton John and Civil Unions vs. Gay Marriage

Posted on 15 November 2008 by admin

I just got an email from my mother saying that Elton John comments from USA Today are being circulated among her Mormon friends.  Looks like the Yes on 8 campaign is using them to try to raise more money.

Of course, I wish he hadn’t said such things.  My guess is that these were a few off the cuff remarks on the red carpet and they do not fully explain where he stands.  Further speculating, I’m thinking he’s one of our gays who finds it undignified to aspire to or assimilate with anything hetero.

This whole thing prompted me to reply to my mother’s email to try to explain some of the differences (outside of fairness and dignity) between civil unions and marriage.  Some of the videos I sent are below after the jump.

Here are the comments:

“We’re not married. Let’s get that right. We have a civil partnership. What is wrong with Proposition 8 is that they went for marriage. Marriage is going to put a lot of people off, the word marriage.”

“I don’t want to be married. I’m very happy with a civil partnership. If gay people want to get married, or get together, they should have a civil partnership. The word ‘marriage,’ I think, puts a lot of people off.”

“You get the same equal rights that we do when we have a civil partnership. Heterosexual people get married. We can have civil partnerships.”

The Huffington Post also says:

Elton may be happy with his civil union, but that’s because the Uk version is very different form California’s. While in the United Kingdom, civil unions grant all the rights of marriage and are available for same and opposite sex couples, in California, only same-sex couples may have a civil union. More importantly, in California, civil unions are granted the same 400 state rights as marriages but–and this is a huge but– are ineligible for the 1069 federal marriage rights, should the Defense of Marriage Act be overturned. President-elect Barack Obama’s political platform calls for a full repeal of DOMA.

A Camden, NJ couple demonstrates how domestic partnership and civil unions failed in the real world.

ACLU of New Jersey legal director says New Jersey’s civil union law has failed to keep its promise of equality.

Marriage Equality: Panel Discussion on Proposition 8 (first 15 minutes)

The full hour long presentation with chapter links can be found here.

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