Comments on: Dobson Caves to Evangelicals Who Call Glenn Beck a Cultist http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/ We're NOT Anti-Mormon -- We're Pro-Liberty! About Prop 8, and ganging up on Gay & Lesbian rights. Wed, 16 Dec 2009 22:02:18 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Chino Blanco http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/#comment-237 Chino Blanco Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:17:08 +0000 http://www.stopthemormons.com/?p=687#comment-237 Here’s some more fun: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdx-zqAenQo That’s Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Focus on the Family Action, making the claim that Mitt Romney has “acknowledged Mormonism is not a Christian faith.” Really? Mitt admitted that? If so, that’d be a pretty big deal to Mitt’s Mormon fanbase, wouldn’t it? Here’s some more fun:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kdx-zqAenQo

That’s Tom Minnery, senior vice president of government and public policy at Focus on the Family Action, making the claim that Mitt Romney has “acknowledged Mormonism is not a Christian faith.”

Really? Mitt admitted that? If so, that’d be a pretty big deal to Mitt’s Mormon fanbase, wouldn’t it?

]]> By: William M http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/#comment-234 William M Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:41:20 +0000 http://www.stopthemormons.com/?p=687#comment-234 Neally's comment is an interesting one and deserves an East Coast LDS response on a couple of his points. Here is the first. The LDS did not get played by the Evangelicals. First, as has been covered in detail in the San Francisco Chronicle, it was the Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco, who had previously served as Archbishop of Salt Lake City for 11 years, who invited the LDS Church to join the Yes on Prop 8 coalition. More importantly, as has been publicized by Atlantic Monthly blogger Andrew Sullivan and others, a leaked LDS Church memo shows that the LDS anticipated the California constitutional ballot initiative on same-sex marriage, with amazing prescience, at least as long ago as 1997, and hoped to ally with the Catholic Church as to the initiative. So, Neally, whether we are weird, quirky, benevolent or not nice, we are not stupid and we did not get played. Neally’s comment is an interesting one and deserves an East Coast LDS response on a couple of his points. Here is the first.

The LDS did not get played by the Evangelicals. First, as has been covered in detail in the San Francisco Chronicle, it was the Catholic Archbishop of San Francisco, who had previously served as Archbishop of Salt Lake City for 11 years, who invited the LDS Church to join the Yes on Prop 8 coalition.

More importantly, as has been publicized by Atlantic Monthly blogger Andrew Sullivan and others, a leaked LDS Church memo shows that the LDS anticipated the California constitutional ballot initiative on same-sex marriage, with amazing prescience, at least as long ago as 1997, and hoped to ally with the Catholic Church as to the initiative.

So, Neally, whether we are weird, quirky, benevolent or not nice, we are not stupid and we did not get played.

]]> By: Truth Wins Out - Focus on the Family at Odds with Christians over Mormon Ties http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/#comment-229 Truth Wins Out - Focus on the Family at Odds with Christians over Mormon Ties Tue, 30 Dec 2008 03:51:16 +0000 http://www.stopthemormons.com/?p=687#comment-229 [...] following item showed up in my e-mail a week ago and, like Stop the Mormons, I thought it was curious but not worth an immediate [...] [...] following item showed up in my e-mail a week ago and, like Stop the Mormons, I thought it was curious but not worth an immediate [...]

]]> By: Chino Blanco http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/#comment-227 Chino Blanco Mon, 29 Dec 2008 03:20:07 +0000 http://www.stopthemormons.com/?p=687#comment-227 UPDATE ... Glenn <a href="http://www.glennbeck.com/content/articles/article/200/19594/" rel="nofollow">responds</a>: <i>The Christmas Sweater</i> is a story about the idea of Christmas as a time for redemption and atonement. <b>Whatever your beliefs about my religion, the concept of religious tolerance is too important to be sacrificed in response to pressure from special interest groups, especially when it means bowing to censorship.</b> I'm humbled and grateful that hundreds of thousands of people from different faiths have read the book and have appreciated its uplifting message for themselves. At a time when the world is so full of fear, despair, and divisions, it is my hope that all of those who believe in a loving and peaceful God would stand together on the universal message of hope and forgiveness. -glenn UPDATE …

Glenn responds:

The Christmas Sweater is a story about the idea of Christmas as a time for redemption and atonement. Whatever your beliefs about my religion, the concept of religious tolerance is too important to be sacrificed in response to pressure from special interest groups, especially when it means bowing to censorship. I’m humbled and grateful that hundreds of thousands of people from different faiths have read the book and have appreciated its uplifting message for themselves. At a time when the world is so full of fear, despair, and divisions, it is my hope that all of those who believe in a loving and peaceful God would stand together on the universal message of hope and forgiveness.
-glenn

]]> By: Neally http://www.stopthemormons.com/2008/12/26/dobson-caves-to-evangelicals-who-call-glenn-beck-a-cultist/#comment-225 Neally Sun, 28 Dec 2008 03:42:25 +0000 http://www.stopthemormons.com/?p=687#comment-225 The Mormon Church pretty much got played by Evangelical groups. Essentially they used the Mormon's fundraising and manpower to defeat Gay Marriage, but then slip away leaving the LDS holding the bag and getting the unwanted attention. Ask Mitt Romney if he was able to pull the knife out of his back after courting these folks in the '08 primary. Not that I feel sorry for them, but soon the LDS will learn they made a huge tactical mistake in aligning with the Religous Right. They we're oh-so-close to mainstream respectability after the Salt Lake Olympics but then completely blew it with Prop 8. Most of us on the East Coast saw mormons as a weird, quirky religion but whose people we're friendly and benelovent so no one really had anything against them. Post Prop 8 however, they're still viewed as weird and quirky but who may not be as nice as they seemed. The Mormon Church pretty much got played by Evangelical groups. Essentially they used the Mormon’s fundraising and manpower to defeat Gay Marriage, but then slip away leaving the LDS holding the bag and getting the unwanted attention. Ask Mitt Romney if he was able to pull the knife out of his back after courting these folks in the ’08 primary.

Not that I feel sorry for them, but soon the LDS will learn they made a huge tactical mistake in aligning with the Religous Right. They we’re oh-so-close to mainstream respectability after the Salt Lake Olympics but then completely blew it with Prop 8.

Most of us on the East Coast saw mormons as a weird, quirky religion but whose people we’re friendly and benelovent so no one really had anything against them. Post Prop 8 however, they’re still viewed as weird and quirky but who may not be as nice as they seemed.

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